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Was out there yesterday and found out that if you are in the pit, you must wear a helmet. Whether you are taking your bike to tech or riding your pit bike to the restroom. It is now a mandatory track rule, some org's made you do it before anyways but now it is a track rule. Just thought I would let everyone know so that if you have a pit bike, you can bring a moto-x helmet, brain bucket or something like that to wear in the pits..
 

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Thats wild... Not sure what I think about that. So I assume this is for track days only as I cant see them trying to enforce this to pit crews etc at a race.
 

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Yeah...

I was, very unfortunately, a key witness to the incident that brought this all on(R.I.P. brutha). Mark Duncan heard about it and instituted the "lid at all times" rule for all his track days. Evidently BW has followed suit...
 

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Yeah...

I was, very unfortunately, a key witness to the incident that brought this all on(R.I.P. brutha). Mark Duncan heard about it and instituted the "lid at all times" rule for all his track days. Evidently BW has followed suit...
Not a bad idea, especially when riding your bike to tech, I just wish I didn't have to wear a lid when riding my 50 to the pisser, oh well.. I got there right after it happened last year and man that was a very freak accident, made everyone stop and think that day.
 

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I hate to ask the question, but what happened? (Obviously someone died, but how?)
 

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I'll try my best to make it short, and with much respect for the fallen rider...

Late Jan 2007...27deg F when I pulled into the gate. Tech begins @ 7:30am...temp was probably up to 31-32deg F at that time.

I'm working tech as usual...nobody wears their lid to tech. A rider pull into line and I immediately recognize Jeremy Toye's bike from the previous year. CBR1000RR. Jeremy is a top level club racer in our area...his bikes are BUILT to compliment his considerable skills. Not exactly a beginner/intermediate type bike. I find the rider is signed up for B group. That was a bit of a red flag for me, so I decided to ask him a couple questions to ease my conscious if possible, trying to make sure the guy wasn't in over his head. I found he'd never ridden BW before, but still signed up for B group(red flag #2). I also found he'd just picked the bike up and had never ridden the bike on a race track before...basically zero experience with a real fire breathing monster. This was red flag #3, so I took extra time with this man. I suggested he attend our orientation class and sighting laps, usually reserved for C group riders, and he was all for it(ok, this guy's listening to reason and that's a good sign). I decided to spend a bit more time with him and gave him the whole "cold tires don't stick and it's damn cold right now" chat. He concurred whole-heartedly and assured me he understood fully...and his attitude was very good. At this point I felt much better placing the tech sticker on his bike, which is required before he can enter a hot track. After placing the sticker, I turned around feeling good about the guy and took two steps while he manuevered out of the tech line. All the sudden I hear revs spool up and I spin around just in time to see the rider going over the highside of the bike while going about 5mph in the pits. I ran the 15yards or so over to the scene expecting to see him get up with that "oops I fucked up" grin. But it didn't turn out that way at all. What I saw assured me he wasn't about to get up. The right footpeg had impaled his skull...they took him off the ventilator 2 days later.

It was a freak accident. Probably some combination of the cold and lack of experience with that particular bike. I sure wish that hadn't happened, for the sake of this man and his loved ones. But risk is inherent in our sport. And it's something we can never forget. Not in the tech line...not for one instant.

Rest in peace brother......
 

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I wasn't there but I heard about it moments after it happend. Didn't know you were working Tech that day, Poacher.

I can't imagine what it would've been like to be there.

Terribly, terribly sad.
 

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poach said:
I'll try my best to make it short, and with much respect for the fallen rider...

Late Jan 2007...27deg F when I pulled into the gate. Tech begins @ 7:30am...temp was probably up to 31-32deg F at that time.

I'm working tech as usual...nobody wears their lid to tech. A rider pull into line and I immediately recognize Jeremy Toye's bike from the previous year. CBR1000RR. Jeremy is a top level club racer in our area...his bikes are BUILT to compliment his considerable skills. Not exactly a beginner/intermediate type bike. I find the rider is signed up for B group. That was a bit of a red flag for me, so I decided to ask him a couple questions to ease my conscious if possible, trying to make sure the guy wasn't in over his head. I found he'd never ridden BW before, but still signed up for B group(red flag #2). I also found he'd just picked the bike up and had never ridden the bike on a race track before...basically zero experience with a real fire breathing monster. This was red flag #3, so I took extra time with this man. I suggested he attend our orientation class and sighting laps, usually reserved for C group riders, and he was all for it(ok, this guy's listening to reason and that's a good sign). I decided to spend a bit more time with him and gave him the whole "cold tires don't stick and it's damn cold right now" chat. He concurred whole-heartedly and assured me he understood fully...and his attitude was very good. At this point I felt much better placing the tech sticker on his bike, which is required before he can enter a hot track. After placing the sticker, I turned around feeling good about the guy and took two steps while he manuevered out of the tech line. All the sudden I hear revs spool up and I spin around just in time to see the rider going over the highside of the bike while going about 5mph in the pits. I ran the 15yards or so over to the scene expecting to see him get up with that "oops I fucked up" grin. But it didn't turn out that way at all. What I saw assured me he wasn't about to get up. The right footpeg had impaled his skull...they took him off the ventilator 2 days later.

It was a freak accident. Probably some combination of the cold and lack of experience with that particular bike. I sure wish that hadn't happened, for the sake of this man and his loved ones. But risk is inherent in our sport. And it's something we can never forget. Not in the tech line...not for one instant.

Rest in peace brother......
Thanks for sharing that and I'm sorry you had to go through that, but you did what you could.
RIP fellow rider.
 

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thanks for the story and yeah reading that i can fully understand that rule ...................... RIP for a fellow rider
 

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poach said:
I'll try my best to make it short, and with much respect for the fallen rider...

Late Jan 2007...27deg F when I pulled into the gate. Tech begins @ 7:30am...temp was probably up to 31-32deg F at that time.

I'm working tech as usual...nobody wears their lid to tech. A rider pull into line and I immediately recognize Jeremy Toye's bike from the previous year. CBR1000RR. Jeremy is a top level club racer in our area...his bikes are BUILT to compliment his considerable skills. Not exactly a beginner/intermediate type bike. I find the rider is signed up for B group. That was a bit of a red flag for me, so I decided to ask him a couple questions to ease my conscious if possible, trying to make sure the guy wasn't in over his head. I found he'd never ridden BW before, but still signed up for B group(red flag #2). I also found he'd just picked the bike up and had never ridden the bike on a race track before...basically zero experience with a real fire breathing monster. This was red flag #3, so I took extra time with this man. I suggested he attend our orientation class and sighting laps, usually reserved for C group riders, and he was all for it(ok, this guy's listening to reason and that's a good sign). I decided to spend a bit more time with him and gave him the whole "cold tires don't stick and it's damn cold right now" chat. He concurred whole-heartedly and assured me he understood fully...and his attitude was very good. At this point I felt much better placing the tech sticker on his bike, which is required before he can enter a hot track. After placing the sticker, I turned around feeling good about the guy and took two steps while he manuevered out of the tech line. All the sudden I hear revs spool up and I spin around just in time to see the rider going over the highside of the bike while going about 5mph in the pits. I ran the 15yards or so over to the scene expecting to see him get up with that "oops I fucked up" grin. But it didn't turn out that way at all. What I saw assured me he wasn't about to get up. The right footpeg had impaled his skull...they took him off the ventilator 2 days later.

It was a freak accident. Probably some combination of the cold and lack of experience with that particular bike. I sure wish that hadn't happened, for the sake of this man and his loved ones. But risk is inherent in our sport. And it's something we can never forget. Not in the tech line...not for one instant.

Rest in peace brother......
Sad story. Thanks for sharing. I did my first track day a month or so ago at BW w/ Kegwins, and had heard the new rule a couple days before we went. Didn't understand it then, but totally understandable now. Will pass the word at next event. R.I.P.
 

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Thats wild... Not sure what I think about that. So I assume this is for track days only as I cant see them trying to enforce this to pit crews etc at a race.
i was there the day the rider died in front of me coming out of tech doing 4mph tops which is what started making this rule. My wife was on the phone with 911 and i was trying to stop the massive bleeding from his head and nose that was choking him. He was life flighted off the track and didn't make it. This happened Jan of 07. In regard to Paochers post this was not even close to this guy's first time on a track he was a very knowledgable rider that had close to 20+ years under his belt and many of them were spent on trackdays. This was however his first time on a 1000 he has always ridden 600's. This wasn't a newbie by any means.
 
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